Sponsored by
Challenges & Opportunities for DB Pension Schemes
in the New Environment
Almost exactly a year ago, we staged a Masterclass entitled “Endgame, Middlegame or Long Game”, exploring the fact that there were multiple journeys of different lengths that DB plans could implement to meet their pension promises to members. A year later, many of those journeys have narrowed and shortened, especially for corporate DB plans. A rising rate environment, even before the Trussonomics debacle, has been beneficial for funding levels. This has now accelerated further, combined with the far less benign liquidity crunch and the forced sale of both gilts and risk assets resulting from the LDI crisis. Meantime, the DWP consultation on DB funding rules has just closed, such that a focus on how the endgame looks now could not be more timely.
At the Masterclass, expert practitioners and their key advisers, representing DB schemes of all types – closed and open, in house and externally managed – will discuss and compare notes on how they are approaching the endgame in the new environment, the new challenges and opportunities they have identified, the actions they are taking, and the expected outcomes. As usual, the debate will be highly candid and interactive, with delegates encouraged to engage proactively throughout.
Chair
Sally Bridgeland
Chair
Local Pensions Partnership Investments Ltd
Agenda
Devil's Advocates
Claire McCormick, Pensions Trustee, Yorkshire & Clydesdale Bank DB Scheme
Sofia Perkonigg, Trustee Director, UBS Pension Scheme
Margaret de Valois, Senior Consultant, Stoneport Pensions
A panel of Devil’s Advocates will be on duty for the course of the afternoon.
They will be available to pose challenging questions to any of the conference speakers when invited to do so by the Moderator of each session. They will provide an end of day summary of the main learning and action points from the conference.
13.30 – 13.50
Meet & Greet
13.55 – 14.05
Opening Remarks
Programme Director:
Stephen Glover
Director
SG Pensions Enterprise
14.05 – 14.20
Introduction from the Chair
Masterclass Chair:
Sally Bridgeland
Chair
Local Pensions Partnership Investments
Sally Bridgeland will discuss how the environment has changed for DB schemes in light of rising inflation and rates, the cost-of-living crisis, monetary tightening and the LDI market turmoil.
She will identify some of the challenges ahead and how we will address them during the Masterclass.
14.20 – 15.05
Sponsored Panel Discussion:
The Endgame Options & How They Are Changing
Moderator:
Sally Bridgeland
Masterclass Chair
Iain Brown
Head of UK FM Strategic Clients
Kempen Capital Management
Lara Desay
Partner
Hymans Robertson
Chris Hogg
Chief Executive Officer
National Grid UK Pension Scheme Trustees
Russell Lee
Head of Insurance Solutions
M&G Investments
Adam Saron
Founder
Clara Pensions
Speakers representing a leading DB pension scheme, an Insurer, a Master Trust, a Superfund and a Pensions Consultant, will explore the different approaches to delivering DB benefits guarantees. They will discuss the decisions required of trustees to arrive at the best endgame solution for their scheme, the investment choices involved in the various approaches, and not least, the limited capacity for risk-transfer outcomes, even for well-funded schemes, in the face of capital constraints.
The session will be highly interactive and informative for DB scheme executives weighing up the options facing them.
15.05 – 15.30
Sponsored Presentation: The Changing Journey to the Endgame and the Case for FM & Outsourced CIO
Simon Partridge
Head of Fiduciary Management Solutions
Russell Investments
Our speaker will explore the implications for DB schemes of rising rates and recent market events, especially whether we need to think differently about hedging strategies and liability risk in response to the recent LDI crisis.
He will proceed to examine the case for Fiduciary Management and outsourcing the CIO and the investment team, which have become increasingly popular choices for DB schemes seeking to maximise operational and investment efficiencies and manage the war for talent in their overall governance strategy.
He will discuss the nature of FM/OCIO approaches, how well they have stood up recently, what changes they may need to adapt, and the prospects for their continuing or indeed wider use among DB schemes as the DB market matures.
15.30 – 15.50
Coffee at Home & Online Networking
15.50 – 16.35
Panel Discussion:
The Outlook for DB Funding Policy & Regulation
Moderator:
Henry Tapper
Executive Chair
AgeWage
Sharon Bowles
Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted
House of Lords
David Fairs
Executive Director
Regulatory Policy, Analysis & Advice
The Pensions Regulator
Fiona Frobisher
Deputy Director of DB Scheme Policy
Department for Work & Pensions
Kerrin Rosenberg
Chief Executive Officer
Cardano Investment
The DWP consultation on DB funding rules has recently closed. How are policymakers and regulators responding to the recent turmoil in the financial markets? Are there lessons learned which are likely to affect the nature of DB funding in the future, and in what ways?
Representatives from the DWP, TPR and a leading consultant will debate these vital issues with delegates.
The session will be highly interactive and informative for DB scheme executives weighing up the options facing them.
16.35 – 16.40
Introduction to Discussion Groups
16.40 – 17.20
Expert Discussion Groups
Group 1: Challenges & Opportunities for the In-House DB Model
(Schemes with in house investment resources, both FCA and non-FCA regulated, and including LGPS pool operators)
Facilitator:
Ian McKinlay
Expert Pensions CIO
Lead Discussants:
Mike Clark
Founder Director
Ario Advisory
Mark Hedges
Trustee Director
Nationwide Pension Scheme
Chris Hogg
Chief Executive Officer
National Grid UK Pension
Scheme Trustees
John Raisin
Director
John Raisin Financial Scheme
Group 2: Challenges & Opportunities for the Outsourced DB Model
(Schemes without internal investment resources, including LGPS pool participants, with trustees relying on FM, outsourced CIO and other investment advice to implement their strategy)
Facilitator:
Tegs Harding
Director
Independent Trustee Services
Lead Discussants:
Terry Alleyne
Trustee Director
Citi UK Pensions
Joanne Donnelly
Board Secretary
LGPS Advisory Board
Andrew Krousti
Head of Pensions
Capgemini
Charlotte O’Leary
Chief Executive Officer
Pensions for Purpose
Themes for both discussions:
- The current governance model to implement investment and hedging strategies. Will this change?
- How best to work with the Sponsor on the journey given recently improved funding positions
- Opportunities and governance lessons for LGPS funds and pools from private sector DB de-risking
- Challenges to ESG strategies from the sale of illiquid assets
- Consequences of the hit to LDI managers’ P&Ls for trustees’ LDI implementation strategies
- Optimum delegated governance models between trustees and agents. Can these operate at pace?
17.20 – 17.30
Feedback from Discussion Leaders
Ian McKinlay
Expert Pensions CIO
Tegs Harding
Director
Independent Trustee Services
The Facilitators will report back on the main points covered and the salient conclusions reached in their respective discussion groups.
17.30 – 17.40
Devil's Advocates' Summary
Sofia Perkonigg
Trustee Director
UBS Pension Scheme
Margaret de Valois
Senior Consultant
Stoneport Pensions
The Devil’s Advocates will offer their summary and main takeaways from the afternoon’s proceedings.
17.40 – 17.50
Final Thoughts & Closing Remarks
18.00
Kempen Follow-on event
All Masterclass delegates are invited to an in-person hospitality and networking event, ‘The outer edges of the investment world‘, at Dion Paternoster House near to St Paul’s, hosted by Kempen Capital Management.
Speakers
Terry Alleyne
Trustee Director
Citi UK Pensions
Sharon Bowles
Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted
House of Lords
Iain Brown
Head of UK FM Strategic Clients
Kempen Capital Management
Mike Clark
Founder Director
Ario Advisory
Lara Desay
Partner
Hymans Robertson
Joanne Donnelly
Board Secretary
LGPS Advisory Board
David Fairs
Executive Director
Regulatory Policy, Analysis & Advice
The Pensions Regulator
Fiona Frobisher
Deputy Director of DB Scheme Policy
Department for Work & Pensions
Mark Hedges
Trustee Director
Nationwide Pension Scheme
Tegs Harding
Director
Independent Trustee Services
Chris Hogg
Chief Executive Officer
National Grid UK Pension Scheme
Andrew Krousti
Head of Pensions
Capgemini
Russell Lee
Head of Insurance Solutions
M&G Investments
Claire McCormick
Pensions Trustee
Yorkshire & Clydesdale Bank DB Scheme
Ian McKinlay
Expert Pensions CIO
Charlotte O'Leary
Chief Executive Officer
Pensions for Purpose
Simon Partridge
Head of Fiduciary Management Solutions
Russell Investments
Sofia Perkonigg
Trustee Director
UBS Pension Scheme
John Raisin
Director
John Raisin Financial Services
Kerrin Rosenberg
Chief Executive Officer
Cardano Investment
Adam Saron
Founder
Clara Pensions
Henry Tapper
Executive Chair
AgeWage
Margaret de Valois
Senior Consultant
Stoneport Pensions