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Despite all the success to date of auto enrolment, the volume of DC savings on current projections will still be seriously inadequate for the great majority of UK workers to secure a satisfactory income in retirement. Furthermore, even assuming adequate pot size, most savers do not participate in vehicles that enable an automatic conversion to retirement income. In the DB world, things are different of course, though significant volumes of pension transfers in recent years leave many savers facing the same challenges.
Delegates to the Masterclass will debate the solutions to these issues: how best to give the advice and guidance savers need; the nature of the products being developed in the retirement space and whether they are fit for purpose; maximising investment performance in the accumulation phase; the income that will need to come from other sources, or from continuing to work; the evolution of new vehicles, like CDC; the policy and regulatory support that will be necessary; and who bears the cost of failure.
Chair
Chris Pond
Chair
Financial Inclusion Commission
Keynote Speaker
Sir Hector Sants
Chair
The Money & Pensions Service
Agenda
Devil's Advocates
Glyn Jenkins, Head of Pensions, UNISON
Elizabeth Renshaw-Ames, Chair, Aviva Master Trust
A panel of Devil’s Advocates will be on duty for the course of the afternoon.
They will be available to pose challenging questions to any of the conference speakers when invited to do so by the Moderator of each session.They will provide an end of day summary of the main learning and action points from the conference.
12.20 – 12.40
Meet & Greet
12.40 – 12.50
Welcome & Introduction
Chair:
Chris Pond
Chair
Financial Inclusion Commission
Programme Director:
Stephen Glover
Director
SG Pensions Enterprise
12.50 – 13.35
Presentation & Discussion: The Income in Retirement Landscape
Moderator:
Sophia Singleton
Partner
XPS Pensions Group
Presentation Speaker:
Sir Hector Sants
Chairman
The Money & Pensions Service
Expert Discussants:
Martin Fahy
Chief Executive Officer
ASFA
Cristián Rodríguez
Chairman of the Board
AFP Habitat (Chile)
Over 13 million people in the UK will be at or beyond the State Pension age by 2030. Many will have expectations of converting their retirement assets into an effective wage in retirement, but little understanding of how to do so, whether or not their savings pot is sufficient to the purpose. In addition, the accelerating shift from DB to DC schemes will fundamentally change the way savers accumulate assets and consume retirement products.
Our speakers will discuss how the retirement income landscape will need to evolve to meet this enormous challenge: in terms of industry structure, emergence of new players, consolidation trends, customer engagement, new product evolution, contribution rates, investment realities, the policy and regulatory backdrop and, not least, lessons from other countries with a longstanding and greater reliance on DC saving for retirement.
13.35 – 14.15
Panel Discussion: The Practicalities of Converting Savings into Drawdown
Moderator:
Emma Douglas
Chair-Designate
PLSA
David Hare
Chair of the IGC
Phoenix Group
Ankul Daga
Co-Lead
Global Retirement Research Planning
Vanguard Asset Management
David Porter
DC Director
Mobius Life
Rob Yuille
Head of Long Term Savings Policy
Association of British Insurers (ABI)
An expert panel will address the practical implications of the above, in terms of the actions that key practitioners will need to take to meet the challenge of providing savers with the retirement income they will require.
Our speakers will outlinethe pros and cons of the three main options available to retirees: advised drawdown; non-advised drawdown; and in-scheme drawdown, whether via CDC or a default solution. They will debate how the retirement income marketplace will need to evolve across these three areas in order to deliver optimum results across society as a whole.
14.15 – 14.40
Sponsored Presentation:
The At Retirement Innovation Challenge
Andy Seed
Head of DC
Aviva Investors
Ever since pension freedoms were introduced, the design of lifestyle default funds and glide-paths have certainly evolved during accumulation for savers. As a general rule, we now have a far more appropriately constructed and well diversified strategy which controls volatility over time. One could argue this is a “do it for me” button for the apathetic saver. But what about “through”?
The at-retirement space has been painfully slow to evolve. Notwithstanding the FCA investment pathways introduced last year, we don’t yet have a do it for me button in retirement. This session talks through some of the challenges as to why this arena is so complex and some of the developments we might expect to see coming soon.
14.40 – 15.05
Coffee at Home & Online Networking
15.05 – 15.40
Panel Discussion: Non-Pensions Sources
of Retirement Income
Moderator:
Chris Pond
Chair
Financial Inclusion Commission
Panellists:
Tony Baker
Director
Chambers Financial Services
Liz Barclay
Small Business Commissioner
Department for BEIS
Eve Read
Acting Director of Customer Engagement
NEST Corporation
Far too many DC savings pots are not going to be large enough, on current projections, to provide an adequate retirement income for their beneficiaries. The obvious long-term solution is to raise contribution levels further during the accumulation phase to fill this gap. Pending this, savers will have to rely on non-pensions income sources to achieve adequacy, in addition to the State Pension. These could include equity release, property rents, other investment income, the NEST sidecar initiative, and various financial well-being strategies.
Our panel will debate these holistic approaches to the retirement income challenge, and how they can most effectively be incorporated within both advised and non-advised drawdown solutions.
15.45 – 16.30
Expert Discussion Groups
Group 1: Advised Retirement Solutions
Facilitator:
Henry Tapper
Founder & CEO
AgeWage
Lead Discussants:
Adrian Cooper
Development Director
Destination Retirement
Hal La Thangue
Associate Director
Broadridge
Ben Piggott
Scheme Secretary
Royal Mail Pensions Trustees
Themes:
- Identifying the providers in the advised drawdown marketplace
- How to make advice more accessible
- The role of trustees in steering members towards advice
- The point at which retirement advice and planning should commence.
- Monitoring advisers effectively – protecting members from bad advice and scams.
- Optimal investment strategies within drawdown products.
- Is advice – if affordable – always preferable?
- Creating a truly competitive market for retirement solutions.
Group 2: Non-Advised Retirement Solutions
Facilitator:
Andy Cox
Chair
Natwest DC Plan
Lead Discussants:
David Gulland
Member of the IGC
Royal London
Stefan Lundbergh
Director Insights
Cardano
Janette Weir
Managing Director
Ignition House
Themes:
- Investment pathways – are they fit for purpose?
- What does a good default retirement plan look like?
- Communication and engagement challenges
- Avoiding one-size-fits-all solutions
- Incorporating holistic wealth management
- Building consumer understanding of VFM in the retirement space
- Managing longevity risk effectively
16.30 – 16.35
Return to Plenary
16.35 – 17.05
Summary & Conclusions: The Future of Retirement
Breakout Discussion Summary:
Andy Cox
Chair
Natwest DC Plan
Henry Tapper
Founder & CEO
AgeWage
Devil's Advocates Summary:
Glyn Jenkins
Head of Pensions
UNISON
Elizabeth Renshaw-Ames
Chair
Aviva Master Trust
Facilitators from the expert discussion groups will report back on their main conclusions and compare notes on the merits of the various approaches.
The Devil’s Advocates will be invited to provide their summary of the afternoon’s proceedings. Together with the Chair and the audience, they will reflect on the main takeaways from the conference and suggest positive actions for the future.
17.05 – 17.30
Final Thoughts & Open Networking
Speakers
Tony Baker
Director
Chambers Financial Services
Liz Barclay
Small Business Commissioner
Department for BEIS
Adrian Cooper
Development Director
Destination Retirement
Andy Cox
Chair
Natwest DC Plan
Ankul Daga
Co-Lead, Global Retirement Planning Research
Vanguard
Emma Douglas
Chair-Designate
PLSA
Martin Fahy
Chief Executive
ASFA
David Gulland
Member of the Independent Governance Committee
Royal London
David Hare
Chair of the IGC
Phoenix Group
Glyn Jenkins
Head of Pensions
UNISON
Hal La Thangue
Associate Director
Broadridge
Stefan Lundbergh
Director
Cardano Insights
Ben Piggott
Scheme Secretary
Royal Mail Pension Trustees
David Porter
DC Director
Mobius Life
Eve Read
Acting Director of Customer Engagement
NEST Corporation
Elizabeth Renshaw-Ames
Chair
Aviva Master Trust
Cristián Rodríguez
Chairman of the Board
AFP Habitat
Andy Seed
Head of DC
Aviva Investors
Sophia Singleton
Partner & Head of DC
XPS Pensions Group
Henry Tapper
Founder & CEO
AgeWage