Implications for Design of Accumulation & Drawdown Strategies
Prior to the pensions freedoms, savers in DC schemes had the single option to purchase an annuity at retirement, excepting only the tax-free lump sum allowance. Now choice is limitless, raising two overriding issues: the availability of suitable retirement solutions to meet the needs of the mass market, and the empowerment and translate into the combination of pension contributions, investments strategies, structural models, retirement product design and, not least, saver behaviours that will ensure successful and lasting retirement outcomes.
At the Masterclass, expert practitioners and their key advisers, representing DC stakeholders across the board, will discuss the building blocks of DC retirement solutions and seek to demystify the many complexities involved. Expect a candid and highly interactive debate, with delegates encouraged to engage proactively throughout.
Chair
Andy Cox
Chair
NatWest DC Plan
Agenda
Devil's Advocates
Sally Bridgeland, Chair – with Profits Committee, Royal London
Fiona Brown, Group Head of Pensions, Rolls-Royce
Glyn Jenkins, Head of Pensions, UNISON
A panel of Devil’s Advocates will be on duty for the course of the afternoon.
They will be available to pose challenging questions to any of the conference speakers when invited to do so by the Moderator of each session. They will provide an end of day summary of the main learning and action points from the conference.
12.15 – 12.35
Meet & Greet
12.35 – 12.50
Welcome & Introduction
Masterclass Chair:
Andy Cox
Chair
NatWest DC Plan
Programme Director:
Stephen Glover
Director
SG Pensions Enterprise
12.50 – 13.20
Keynote Presentation: Lessons from the Australian DC Retirement System
Martin Fahy
Chief Executive Officer
Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia
The Australian pensions system of retirement pension benefit funds, or superannuation, is based almost entirely upon defined contribution, and is of significantly longer standing and better funded than the aggregate of DC savings arrangements in the UK. It therefore presents an interesting example of the design of a robust retirement system and the challenges faced.
Our speaker will describe the evolution of superannuation in Australia; the main features of the system as regards size, contributions, investment performance, fees, taxation and expected retirement outcomes; the roles of the key stakeholders among government, employers, employees, pensions providers and unions; and the challenges that remain. He will engage in extensive Q&A with delegates on the lessons from the Australian experience and whether these can be usefully applied here in the UK.
13.20 – 14.00
Panel Discussion:
Innovations in Retirement Product Design
Moderator:
Andy Cox
Chair
NatWest DC Plan
Hal La Thangue
Associate Director, Global Insights
Broadridge Analytics Solutions
Julius Pursaill
Strategic Advisor
Cushion
Sophia Singleton
Head of DC
XPS Pensions Group
Rob Yuille
Head of Long-Term Savings Policy
Association of British Insurers
DC savers do not enjoy a guaranteed pension the way members of DB schemes do. Therefore, there is no accepted or automatic retirement solution in place to meet their needs, even in the rare cases where these are clearly known. This has led to intense debate and commercial tension surrounding what DC retirement products should look like and how they can be realised.
In this session, delegates will learn of the latest initiatives and advances in the design of DC retirement strategies and compare the pros and cons of various approaches. Options include Collective Defined Contribution (CDC), longevity-only pooling, non-guaranteed annuities, deferred annuities, and multiple drawdown solutions, and their availability within both default and self-select retirement plans.
14.00 – 14.25
Interview: The Future of DC Investment in the Growth Phase
Interviewer:
Ian McKinlay
Senior Adviser
Avida International
Interviewee:
Andy Dickson
Strategic Development Director
AEGON Master Trust
In addition to greater contributions, the investment performance of DC assets will be critical if we are to ensure good retirement outcomes across the board. This means that DC schemes need to broaden and optimize their risk and return opportunities to ensure good retirement outcomes across the board. This means that DC schemes need to assume higher levels of investment and liquidity risk in pursuit of greater returns in the face of the constraints imposed by the charge cap, the need for daily pricing, and intense fee competition among many providers.
This interview will describe some of the investment strategies and structures being used to achieve these objectives, and will posit what the investment portfolio of a well-run DC fund will look like in 5 years’ time.
14.25 – 14.45
Coffee at Home & Online Networking
14.45 – 14.50
Introduction to Discussion Groups
14.50 – 15.30
Expert Discussion Groups
Group 1) Improving Performance: Growing DC Pots More Effectively
Facilitator:
Tegs Harding
Chair of Investment Committee
L&G Master Trust
Lead Discussants:
Andy Dickson
Strategic Development Director
AEGON Master Trust
David Hutchins
Portfolio Manager – Multi Asset Solutions
AllianceBernstein
Julius Pursaill
Strategic Advisor
Cushon
Matthew Roberts
Head of Alternative Solutions
Fulcrum Asset Management
Themes:
- Resolving the contradiction between higher fees and cost competition.
- Incorporating illiquid and higher return assets
- Optimal default strategies
- The governance structures that will deliver higher performance: single trust/MT/contract-based
Group 2) At Retirement: Converting Pots to Pensions
Facilitator:
Kevin Wesbroom
Professional Trustee
Capital Cranfield Trustees
Lead Discussants:
Rachel Brougham
Trustee Executive
BESTrustees
Adrian Cooper
Business Development Director
HUB Financial Solutions
Laurie Edmans
Commissioner
Financial Inclusion Commission
David Harris
Managing Director
TOR Financial Consulting
Themes:
- Trustee communication & engagement challenges
- Advised vs non-advised solutions
- Is there an optimal retirement product?
- What does a good default retirement plan look like?
- Measuring VFM in the retirement space
15.30 – 15.40
Feedback from Discussion Leaders
Tegs Harding
Director
Independent Trustee Services
Kevin Wesbroom
Professional Trustee
Capital Cranfield Trustees
The Facilitators will report back on the main points covered and the salient conclusions reached in their respective discussion groups.
15.40 – 16.20
Panel Discussion: Delivering the Power to the Road – Member and Employer Engagement
Moderator:
Henry Tapper
Executive Chair
AgeWage
Michelle Sutton
Head of Reward & Pensions
Suez
Jonathan Watts-Lay
Director
Wealth at Work
Janette Weir
Managing Director
Ignition House
No matter the merits of all the retirement solutions discussed during the Masterclass, and the resources, energy and commitment it would take to bring them effectively to market, they will achieve little if employers and savers do not adopt them. As a consequence effective education and engagement represent the essential sine qua non for the future of retirement in the UK.
The likes of the Pensions Dashboard, Pension Wise and Mid-Life MOT at the public level, and all matter of initiatives from private pensions providers and independent researchers have all sought to raise awareness of the need for increased contributions to DC savings and the drawdown choices available at retirement.
A panel of leading experts will discuss the key initiatives to empower both savers and employers to support optimal retirement outcomes.
16.20 – 16.35
Devil's Advocates' Summary
Sally Bridgeland
Chair – with Profits Committee
Royal London
Fiona Brown
Group Head of Pensions
Rolls-Royce
Glyn Jenkins
Head of Pensions
UNISON
The Devil’s Advocates will offer their summary and main takeaways from the afternoon’s proceedings.
16.35 – 16.45
Final Thoughts & Closing Remarks
Speakers
Sally Bridgeland
Chair - with Profits Committee
Royal London
Fiona Brown
Group Head of Pensions
Rolls-Royce
Adrian Cooper
Business Development Director
HUB Financial Solutions
Andy Dickson
Strategic Development Director
AEGON Master Trust
Laurie Edmans CBE
Commissioner
Financial Inclusion Commission
Martin Fahy
Chief Executive Officer
ASFA
Tegs Harding
Chair of Investment Committee
L&G Master Trust
David Harris
Managing Director
TOR Financial Consulting
David Hutchins
Portfolio Manager
Multi Asset Solutions
AllianceBernstein
Glyn Jenkins
Head of Pensions
UNISON
Hal La Thangue
Associate Director
Global Insights
Broadridge Analytics Solutions
Ian McKinlay
Expert Pensions CIO
Julius Pursaill
Strategic Advisor
Cushon
Matthew Roberts
Head of Alternative Solutions
Fulcrum
Sophia Singleton
Head of DC
XPS Pensions Group
Michelle Sutton
Head of Reward & Pensions
Suez
Henry Tapper
Executive Chair
AgeWage
Jonathan Watts-Lay
Director
Wealth at Work
Janette Weir
Managing Director
Ignition House
Kevin Wesbroom
Professional Trustee
Capital Cranfield Trustees
Rob Yuille
Head of Long-Term Savings Policy
Association of British Insurers